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INTRODUCING THE NEW TRANE XL16I (2) STAGE COOLING AIR CONDITIONING/HEAT PUMP!

click here to read about this exciting new technology! Introducing the Trane XL16i Air Conditioning System!

 

EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT TRANE 92% FURNACES.

 

Due to client interest in how these high efficiency condensing furnaces operate we will attempt to clear up some mis information that circulates by word of mouth as well as on Internet Chat Forums.

First let us say we have been installing Trane furnaces since 1989 with next to NO repair problems. This includes the 92% versions. We ran a new house HVAC business for 10 years installing not only the furnace, air conditioner or heat pump but all the ductwork, wiring, in other words a complete turn key installation. We did this on between 150 - 200 new homes a year for this 10 year period.

To give you all some insight to why some companies try to discourage you from installing 92% furnaces please read on.

WHY WOULD OTHER COMPANIES NOT WANT TO INSTALL A 92% FURNACE?

Installing these furnaces MUST be done correctly or they WILL NOT work right. Companies who hire inexperienced installers and service people already know they will have problems with the installation. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAID FOR.

If your basement ceiling is finished with sheet rock it may be difficult to run the P.V.C. flue pipe or pipes to the outside wall of the building. These pipes USUALLY have to run horizontally AND have to have a 1/4" pitch back towards the furnace. If you don't have this pitch you will get at the LEAST erratic operation of the burners on the furnace.

The size of the flue pipes ( diameter ) runs between 2" and 3". The size of the furnace and the length of the runs of pipe as well as the number of elbows will dictate which diameter of pipe is needed. Here again, if the installer AND the estimator doesn't understand this, you can count on problems! In other words if 3" pipe will be needed SOMEONE has to be sure there is enough clearance to allow for installation AND the 1/4" pitch.

WHAT ARE THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR INSTALLING ONE OF THESE FURNACES?

The P.V.C. flue pipes must not be closer to an opening door or window than 1 foot. 

Trane recommends they not be closer than 1 foot from grade level outdoors. Inspectors will read this in the Trane instructions, put their tape measure on the pipes to the ground and if it is 11" will flunk the installation. This is because they know nothing about how the system operates and are going strictly by the Trane instructions. Here is what is going on here. Let's say it snows and the pipes get blocked. Inside the single stage heating furnace there is a pressure switch, if it is a 2 stage heating furnace there is 2 pressure switches, either way the pressure switch will " sense " there is an obstruction and after 3 tries of lighting the furnace will go into lockout. After 1 hour the furnace will again try to relight. If the snow hasn't yet melted or otherwise been removed, it will again go into lockout mode. This is strictly for safety! Ice build up during certain humidity and outdoor temperatures can also cause this problem. The answer is simply to go out and remove the obstruction. 

Other requirements are to keep the flue terminations away from high wind areas, in alcove areas of the home and a few other things. These aren't requirements but rather recommendations.

WHY DO I NEED TO CHANGE THE THERMOSTAT AND THERMOSTAT WIRING TO THE FURNACE?

Another thing that we hear from clients getting estimates from other companies on 2 stage heating furnaces is that " We don't have to change your existing thermostat or change the thermostat wire from the thermostat back to the furnace". This is true if you presently have no air conditioning ( assuming you will never add air conditioning ) AND also have (5) wires going to the furnace. We feel however, it is more responsible on our part to run enough wires so that you won't have a problem adding air conditioning in the future! The 2 stage furnaces have a low fire and high fire gas valve which requires a thermostat with low and high fire capability along with 6 wires going back to the furnace ( with air conditioning ). Your existing thermostat will have only (1) terminal for heating designated as " W ". The terminals are designated W1 ( low fire )and W2 ( high fire ). If the thermostat and wire isn't changed, the only way an installer can get heat is to " jumper " low and high out, therefore you end up with a SINGLE STAGE FURNACE RUNNING ON HIGH FIRE. If you paid for a 2 stage heat furnace you will probably be pretty upset!  Again, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAID FOR. If the price sounds too good, it probably is. Ask you questions, since if you are talking to a salesman or an otherwise inexperienced installer they may HONESTLY not understand, or the company is trying to get away with something? We have been beaten out of jobs by companies playing this game since they save on the labor, the wire and the cost of the thermostat.

HOW WILL YOU GET A NEW 6 WIRE THERMOSTAT WIRE PULLED TO THE FURNACE?

This is where it gets time consuming or even impossible! We will try to remove your existing thermostat and tie our new wire on to your existing wire. One person pulls the wire from the furnace area while another person feeds the new wire by the thermostat. More often than not however, the wire will be stapled to a stud behind the sheet rock or the wire is jammed somewhere and can't be pulled. When this happens we may have to re locate the thermostat and will need some input from the client. If it can't be relocated you may NOT be able to use a 2 stage furnace effectively. EFFECTIVELY is the key word. Beware!!

I HAVE HEARD I NEED A FLUE LINER INSTALLED?

When installing a 92% furnace in place of an old furnace we are removing many B.T.U.'s from the existing double wall vent pipe which runs through the home to the roof. If you have an old home with a masonry chimney, this will require a liner for sure! Usually the only gas appliance left, is the water heater which may not produce enough heat to properly vent. We will test the drafting of the water heater when finished with the installation, if it has affected the draft of the water heater you may need a liner installed in your existing vent to DECREASE it's size to get the water heater drafting right again. This seldom happens, however some City Inspectors will require it be done. This liner is stainless steel and is expensive!

BELOW IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE ACTUAL TRANE INSTALLER'S GUIDE AS TO VENTING WITH P.V.C. PIPE.

TO SEE A WIRING DIAGRAM FOR A 2 STAGE HEATING FURNACE WITH AIR CONDITIONING CLICK THE LINK BELOW. YOU WILL HAVE TO SCROLL A BIT SINCE WE HAD TO ENLARGE THE DIAGRAM FOR VIEWING PURPOSES. WHEN DONE CLICK ON THE RETURN BUTTON TO GET BACK TO THIS PAGE. NOTICE THE THERMOSTAT HAS  W1 AND W2
TERMINALS. THIS IS WHAT TELLS THE FURNACE TO SWITCH FROM LOW FIRE TO HIGH FIRE! THERE IS ABOUT 1 1/2 DEGREES OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOW AND HIGH FIRE. COUNT THE WIRES NEEDED YOURSELF!

2 Stage Wiring Diagram

 

 


 

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